In this video, Ross Jackson is interviewed by Gaia Education host, Jane Rabash. The interview covers a few of the highlights of the two parts of the book. The first part is about the fatal premises of the dominant economic system that hard-wires us for collapse, and the many common misunderstandings about how the economy really works, The second half deals with the characteristics of the successor civilization that is able to thrive within the limits of nature for untold millennia. Either we achieve such a civilization at some unknown time in the future or we go extinct.